On this week’s episode of Someone Else’s Movie, I get to explore the joy of loving weird movies so much you eventually have to make your own weird movie.

That’s because my guest is Mel Eslyn, director of the new Mark Duplass-Sterling K. Brown apocalypse comedy Biosphere, and she wanted to talk about The Catechism Cataclysm, Todd Rohal’s goofy 2011 indie about a couple of guys on a canoe trip who may or may not experience an apocalypse of their own.

If you’ve seen the movie, you know exactly what I mean … and if you haven’t, it’s impossible to explain so I won’t even try. Go rent it, you’ll understand. And then come listen to Mel talk about how Rohal’s unique accomplishment may or may not have been a direct inspiration for Biosphere, and also how art resonates with us whether we want it to or not.

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And then you can catch up to the latest edition of Shiny Things, where I revisit Waterworld, Mallrats and National Lampoon’s Vacaion on the occasion of their new 4K special editions. Fun fact: Waterworld and Mallrats were released just months apart in 1995 (by Universal Pictures and its subsidiary, Gramercy, respectively), and while they had almost nothing in common, the Venn diagram of their fan bases in 2023 is almost certainly a perfect circle. I’m in there too. It’s weird. Go read the thing.